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Klarsicht and the french term "clairvoyance" are two different things. "Klarsicht" has to do with objectivity and seing the things like they are, without being tainted/colored of own beliefs or opinions. For example it is the natural logic that tells oneself that a stone will roll down the hill because of gravity and that it can never roll up the hill by itself. | Klarsicht and the french term "clairvoyance" are two different things. "Klarsicht" has to do with objectivity and seing the things like they are, without being tainted/colored of own beliefs or opinions. For example it is the natural logic that tells oneself that a stone will roll down the hill because of gravity and that it can never roll up the hill by itself. | ||
| − | "Clairvoyance" is a french term used nowadays to describe the so called "supernatural" like seeing into the future, or seing an aura ect... but | + | "Clairvoyance" is a french term used nowadays to describe the so called "supernatural" like seeing into the future, or seing an aura ect... but also as you correctly say, the extrasensory perception which what you surely mean the 6 and 7 senses....... |
Well the truth is, that we are using the 6 and 7 senses all the time, but at our current state of evolution we cannot control the information coming from them nor are we acknowledging the fact that we have them.... That is why many things are running behind the curtains in a "unbewusste" unconscous or sometimes subconscious manner...... | Well the truth is, that we are using the 6 and 7 senses all the time, but at our current state of evolution we cannot control the information coming from them nor are we acknowledging the fact that we have them.... That is why many things are running behind the curtains in a "unbewusste" unconscous or sometimes subconscious manner...... | ||
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--[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 09:52, 9 April 2011 (BST) | --[[User:Neckel|Neckel]] 09:52, 9 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Markvd said ... == | ||
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| + | I agree Neckel it seems as youth we are naturally gifted at seeing things clearly but as the truth or current untruths are unraveled as we grow it is tough to find truth in a sea of chaoticly false information. I think we are evolving and trying to learn the basics of being a human and when we learn those skills individually and eventually as a whole we will see things differently and from multiple perspectives. Thus being elevated in our senses. It would be a great danger to possess great capability without fully understanding the basics, it's like missed steps that could cripple natural evolution of man. I'm sure everyone can sense that the youth are very intuitive nowadays and I hope they push us farther than we can possibly reach so when we do reincarnate the world will be a whole different one that through every age level we find that same genuine energy that is prevalant in our youth to the elder years.:) | ||
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| + | --[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 10:28, 9 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Alive said ... == | ||
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| + | Hi Neckel, | ||
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| + | If clear vision is that simple, why did mister Billy said that "[...]until the human obtains this clear view and clear recognition, which he has to develop through hard, evolution-promoting work, he will be unable to avoid being subject to doubts [...]"? | ||
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| + | It seems to me that clear vision is something difficult to have, something that a human could only get after "hard, evolution-promoting work". | ||
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| + | I agree with you, Earth human life forms, just like other human life forms in various planets, are using their sixth and seventh senses all the time, but they can not control (manage) the incoming and outgoing informations. I also agree with you that "many things are running behind the curtains". But even if I agree with you on other things you mentioned, for me the question is still relevant to be contemplated: Does mister Billy recommend Earth human life forms to use extrasensory perception to overcome their doubts? | ||
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| + | Es tut mir Leid. Ich verstehe Deutsch nicht mehr. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:08, 9 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Alive said ... == | ||
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| + | Two Marks, | ||
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| + | You said: "[...] through every age level we find that same genuine energy that is prevalant in our youth [...]". You do not mean it as somekind of sexual energy, do you? | ||
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| + | --[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 14:14, 9 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Sheila said ... == | ||
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| + | Hi Alive, using common sense one would have to ask themselves how sexual they were pre-pubescent? I would say not at all unless it had been forced on you. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 16:36, 9 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Alive said ... == | ||
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| + | Hi Sheila, | ||
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| + | Why did you say "pre-pubescent"? Two Marks said "youth", not "childhood". | ||
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| + | --[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 17:15, 9 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Sheila said ... == | ||
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| + | Most people lose their abilities by the time they reach puberty. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Sheila|Sheila]] 04:48, 13 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == PacMan said ... == | ||
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| + | Hello | ||
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| + | If someone tells me something extraordinary then should I have doubt or not? I'm afraid I don't understand this text. What does it mean to have no doubts? | ||
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| + | --[[User:PacMan|PacMan]] 20:16, 12 June 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Markvd said ... == | ||
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| + | How you doing champ? I perceive it to mean understanding the fine details but sometimes not fully and currently comprehended to it's fullest due to lack of basic package of human traits not fully acquired and realized due to rebounding effects of humanties current goals materialism and power. There should be a balance and when achieved doubt shall fade eventually. It's kind of like something new. If you don't know about it you tend to brush it aside but once you entrench ones self in it and leart every detail you gain an understanding or appreciation for it's true value. ...............which means I agree with Billy's explanation. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 21:45, 12 June 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == Alive said ... == | ||
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| + | After reading my previous messages I can no longer doubt that my entire life is in doubt. (Are you sure?) I have no doubt about it. (Do you enjoy your life?) Of course I do. (Would you tell me some of happy moments in your life?) I have none. (It seems a very boring life.) I doubt it. | ||
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| + | --[[User:Alive|-- M --]] 15:04, 13 June 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | == PacMan said ... == | ||
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| + | Thank Ya Markvd | ||
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| + | --[[User:PacMan|PacMan]] 20:12, 29 June 2011 (BST) | ||
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| + | Thank Ya Markvd | ||
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| + | --[[User:PacMan|PacMan]] 20:15, 29 June 2011 (BST) | ||
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Comments on Doubt as a Shortcoming <comments />
Alive said ...
Neckel said ...
Salome Alive,
Klarsicht and the french term "clairvoyance" are two different things. "Klarsicht" has to do with objectivity and seing the things like they are, without being tainted/colored of own beliefs or opinions. For example it is the natural logic that tells oneself that a stone will roll down the hill because of gravity and that it can never roll up the hill by itself.
"Clairvoyance" is a french term used nowadays to describe the so called "supernatural" like seeing into the future, or seing an aura ect... but also as you correctly say, the extrasensory perception which what you surely mean the 6 and 7 senses.......
Well the truth is, that we are using the 6 and 7 senses all the time, but at our current state of evolution we cannot control the information coming from them nor are we acknowledging the fact that we have them.... That is why many things are running behind the curtains in a "unbewusste" unconscous or sometimes subconscious manner......
At the momet we are advised to use the "Klarsicht", and to find back to the natural logic we naturally have as kids but which we loose with the adulthood.....
Frieden sei mit Dir.
--Neckel 09:52, 9 April 2011 (BST)
Markvd said ...
I agree Neckel it seems as youth we are naturally gifted at seeing things clearly but as the truth or current untruths are unraveled as we grow it is tough to find truth in a sea of chaoticly false information. I think we are evolving and trying to learn the basics of being a human and when we learn those skills individually and eventually as a whole we will see things differently and from multiple perspectives. Thus being elevated in our senses. It would be a great danger to possess great capability without fully understanding the basics, it's like missed steps that could cripple natural evolution of man. I'm sure everyone can sense that the youth are very intuitive nowadays and I hope they push us farther than we can possibly reach so when we do reincarnate the world will be a whole different one that through every age level we find that same genuine energy that is prevalant in our youth to the elder years.:)
--Markvd 10:28, 9 April 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
Hi Neckel,
If clear vision is that simple, why did mister Billy said that "[...]until the human obtains this clear view and clear recognition, which he has to develop through hard, evolution-promoting work, he will be unable to avoid being subject to doubts [...]"?
It seems to me that clear vision is something difficult to have, something that a human could only get after "hard, evolution-promoting work".
I agree with you, Earth human life forms, just like other human life forms in various planets, are using their sixth and seventh senses all the time, but they can not control (manage) the incoming and outgoing informations. I also agree with you that "many things are running behind the curtains". But even if I agree with you on other things you mentioned, for me the question is still relevant to be contemplated: Does mister Billy recommend Earth human life forms to use extrasensory perception to overcome their doubts?
Es tut mir Leid. Ich verstehe Deutsch nicht mehr.
---- M -- 14:08, 9 April 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
Two Marks,
You said: "[...] through every age level we find that same genuine energy that is prevalant in our youth [...]". You do not mean it as somekind of sexual energy, do you?
---- M -- 14:14, 9 April 2011 (BST)
Sheila said ...
Hi Alive, using common sense one would have to ask themselves how sexual they were pre-pubescent? I would say not at all unless it had been forced on you.
--Sheila 16:36, 9 April 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
Hi Sheila,
Why did you say "pre-pubescent"? Two Marks said "youth", not "childhood".
---- M -- 17:15, 9 April 2011 (BST)
Sheila said ...
Most people lose their abilities by the time they reach puberty.
--Sheila 04:48, 13 April 2011 (BST)
PacMan said ...
Hello
If someone tells me something extraordinary then should I have doubt or not? I'm afraid I don't understand this text. What does it mean to have no doubts?
--PacMan 20:16, 12 June 2011 (BST)
Markvd said ...
How you doing champ? I perceive it to mean understanding the fine details but sometimes not fully and currently comprehended to it's fullest due to lack of basic package of human traits not fully acquired and realized due to rebounding effects of humanties current goals materialism and power. There should be a balance and when achieved doubt shall fade eventually. It's kind of like something new. If you don't know about it you tend to brush it aside but once you entrench ones self in it and leart every detail you gain an understanding or appreciation for it's true value. ...............which means I agree with Billy's explanation.
--Markvd 21:45, 12 June 2011 (BST)
Alive said ...
After reading my previous messages I can no longer doubt that my entire life is in doubt. (Are you sure?) I have no doubt about it. (Do you enjoy your life?) Of course I do. (Would you tell me some of happy moments in your life?) I have none. (It seems a very boring life.) I doubt it.
---- M -- 15:04, 13 June 2011 (BST)
PacMan said ...
Thank Ya Markvd
--PacMan 20:12, 29 June 2011 (BST)
PacMan said ...
Thank Ya Markvd
--PacMan 20:15, 29 June 2011 (BST)
Someone told me last year that mister Billy used the term "clear vision" (Klarsicht) like the French term "clairvoyance", which means extrasensory perception. Is that true? Does mister Billy recommend Earth human life forms to use extrasensory perception to overcome their doubts?
---- M -- 08:27, 9 April 2011 (BST)