Talk:Contact Report 007

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Reginald said ...

They can travel through time and still not save these scripts? Or copy them at least. Or beam the script and the man aboard!

--Reginald 17:03, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Reginald said ...

They can travel through time and still not save these scripts? Or copy them at least. Or beam the script and the man aboard!

--Reginald 17:06, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

I remember reading one time that some things must be approved by the High Council, and I don't know if they approved attaining the scripts, but this report is not up to date so who knows what lies in the depths of planet earth and all it's treasures of knowledge. Don't go searching for that script now Reginald and become a rockstar or anything. :)

--Mark 20:11, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

To Reginald,

Yes, the Plejarens could have just done what you suggested, but that never happened, so Billy had to get the revised version from the Petale level. An extra effort after experiencing a breakdown caused by unreasonable demands by the Plejaren themselves.

On more than a few occasions, the Plejarens have displayed thoughtless "logic" adhering to their non-interference directives, that has caused more problems for Earth humans to "resolve" had they not logically think the "solution" out before remaining on the sidelines, case in point;

1 - As in this case of Rashid, the Plejaren also irresponsibly demanded too much from Billy which also killed him as a result.

2 - Did not intervene when the Sirian commandos began to "erase" all human-made structures on Mars after they arrested the Men in Black on Mars. In Contact Note 251, they mentioned back then, that Earth humans will soon discover the ancient ruins on Mars that will bring into question the religious dogmas. But now it has been erased, makes it more difficult to prove otherwise, thus makes Billy's mission more difficult as well.

3 - Did not intervene during the Tunguska event when a spacecraft with 4387 ET's through navigation error, brought them to Russian and could not leave because of technical difficulties. They created an atomic bomb and destroyed themselves, thus they are now condemned to the re-incarnation process here on Earth, when the Plejarens could have provided another option, but did not, because they are blinded by their own quest for evolution.

Here was a genuine opportunity to resolve a host of problems for both these ET's and Earth humans, who common problems traced back to religions and those that promoted it. Their home worlds were destroyed when their ancestors took the insane religious beliefs from Earth back there 1000 years ago.

Those that created these religious insanity were none other than the Giza Intelligences based under the pyramids. Instead of allowing such an opportunity go to waste, these ET's could have served a most useful endeavor and counter-act the evil Giza Intelligences, thus preventing WW1 and WW2 and also permitting their leaders back home to reconsider?

Sometimes I wonder how "logical" these Plejarens are, when they can't even see what's under their feet? Yes the foundation they stand on, created by the most honorable BEING/Being himself Nokodemjon who co-created the very ancestors of the Plejaren, Creator Overlords and others. It is this foundation of logical, humane intervention that supercedes any directives which enables one to evolve pass these self-imposed restrictions that inhibits both parties of this equation.

--Hawaiian 20:13, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

Hawaiian everyone can't do the Hula dance correctly at first but even higher and more knowledgeable beings can't make perfect decisions every time. Wars can be averted if money hungry people and those that wish to dominate don't reach the highest position so easily. I mean once you become a top official it's like taking candy from a baby, there should be an enormous amount of obstacles before anything is approved. Governments are set up so in a couple of years ANYONE can make it to the top and impose there will upon there people. If they had tougher requirements in leadership such as a very high education attainment, years of good humanitarian service and a certain age before becoming a rule creator things would be much better. It would also help if before approvign anything they discuss the possible good and bad outcomes thus they don't get surprised when chaos breaks out because they were too quick on the trigger. I also remember reading that the Plejarens cannot interfere with events within our jurisdiction unless of a possible destructive nature to the cosmos. They have kindly sent 7 prophets our way or the universe has and we turned them away with the profit power greedy seeking leaders. We are the only ones to blame for our problems.

--Mark 20:39, 1 June 2010 (BST)

Bigfoot said ...

I agree with Mark because the Plejaren are only Human and not some perfect god.Everybody can learn from their mistakes so they can correct these mistakes to the good.I feel very good that the Plejuran help us at all.What would it be like if there was only bad Aliens?

--Bigfoot 08:05, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

In 1995 the Plejarens have officially withdrawn from Earthly missions, expect for the occasional visits and telepathic contacts with BEAM. So as I see it, we are again left to fend for ourselves, one question that I still ponder, are some of the evil 144,228 former ring leaders the "Sons and Daughters of Heavens", those responsible for the terrible religious dogmas on Earth were later accepted by the Pleijaren in the past.

Thus, is it logical to assume that some of these Pleijarens have a self interest in themselves, more so than the concern of these manipulated/degenerated Earth humans, since they have "fulfilled" their part through BEAM by the Creational materials he has written and now has left, contented with their "mission accomplished" endeavor?

Based on the past and current practices/attitudes of the Plejaren, I'm not sure if I would whole hearty accept them 100 percent genuine and compassionate, for self perseveration, avoidance to open dialogue towards addressing their counterparts and steadfastly adhering to their "directives" often appears counter-productive and often creates more problems at hand.

Granted, I will credit them for the assistance given to both BEAM and Earthly matters, but they still have much to learn even if it means the destruction of Earth along with people like ourselves under the worst imposed conditions, trying in earnest to adhere to Creational methods, in my books is nothing less than abandonment!

However, as Billy once mentioned to Quetzal, "one day the Pleijaren will be humbled and respect those that they feed with a big spoon".

--Hawaiian 19:42, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

Hawaiian I usually agree but it's like entering into every country and imposing our rules and time and everytime. A problem which is still going on today.:) If we can't figure out to help ourselves, how can we become any better. If they solve all our problems and fix every mistake we make, how can we learn? I am sure that they had there fair share of trouble makers as well like Ashtar Sheran who was a highly knowlegeable one that somehow chose a different path. They are by no means perfect, remember the caks ship being discontinued. I would call most of what they say as genuine because it is a universal matter of knowledge they are passing along not an egotistical self centered ideal. Would you want to speak to beings that have a LONG way to go in terms of mental development and don't use all there senses correctly. It's like talking to a wall. One day things will get better if everyone can jointly make decisions rather than pointing fingers all the time.

--Mark 22:50, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

Even more imperfections is there inability to have contact with dogs and cats at close proximity. Flashlights which can blind them. Bicycles and there monstrous road grating and balancing act dangers. 500 plus cake ship atmosphere deterioration feature. OOPS said that one already. Updated Contact reports due to approval from councils high above them. Pictures destroyed due to overecited human reactions and possible black mail by earth humans of degenerate thinking capabilities. Feel free to add a list of more my fellow contact report readers.

--Mark 23:33, 6 June 2010 (BST)

Hawaiian said ...

This exercise was to point out the imperfections of these so called "advanced ET's", not point fingers, although it has a certain logical value when seriously analyzed under the Cause and Effect principle for those without the necessary experience in endeavoring however compassionate resolutions they may be utilizing.

On more than a few occasions, had the Plejaren or others analyzed the particular situations and elicit inputs from the very ones affected, then the outcome would have a more positive impact. There are allot of events going on within this most complex environment, both material and fine matters that one day we and others will discover as logical and humane. That is why such a complex interconnected issues that spans time/space of various encounters require a composite consensus approach to include the inputs from these so called degenerates, since some are directly connected to former ET re-incarnated spirits.

Maybe it will be another ET race or BEING not the Plejaren, with of course, Earth human inputs that will finally bring about the reversal of degenerative measures that will bridge the enormous gap that now separates our common link(s)?

We are more interconnected than what meets the eye, but that full potential(s) have not been addressed and when one understands their valuable place holder in this equation, along with others on the "other side" of this equation, then one will "find" the appropriate measures to finally balance the "Equational Potentials" between the negative and positive factors since Nokodemjon brought order in the DERN universe.

The "key" is to acknowledge and act positively on your particular attributes in this most complex set of evolutionary circumstances regardless of ones current level of evolution. When all entities react positively, then the BEING will be unified between the material and fine energies that currently separate them.

--Hawaiian 06:22, 7 June 2010 (BST)

Mark said ...

The Plejaren are not perfect, so they cannot know every single space dwelling race out there. They are developing like we are, thus we can't rely on them for everything, we should be so kind to say thanks for the assistance. They can in no way know every ET's intention out there. If we implemented better measures to counter rash decision making then things can get better by our own hand rather than us having to hope they Plejaren elicit thoughts into every leader to do the right thing.

--Mark 16:51, 7 June 2010 (BST)